Sunday, May 1, 2011

Is Jesus Self-existent?

Does the Bible say that Jesus "self-existed"?

The trinity means; three self existed, co-equal co-eternal person made up one God. Do we have this teaching in the Bible? No. Do we ever read in the Bible “three person made up one God”? No.

We have ONE GOD and the Father of all. We have the Son and we have the Holy Spirit. Do we read anywhere in the Bible "this three made ONE GOD" No. then we doesn’t have the trinity in the Bible.

We have three Holy Person:

1. God the Father

2. The Son

3. The Holy Spirit

EGW use the word “Godhead” for this three person. Why? Because she knew the word "trinity" means something else then the word Godhead. The trinity entered the Christianity world 1500 years before EGW. She knew the teaching of the trinity very well and she knew what the word “trinity” means and she never ever used it. This is because the word ‘trinity’ automatically conveys to the human mind the idea of ‘three-in-one’ (tri-unity) whereas the word ‘Godhead’ contains no such meaning.

The Godhead means ONE God and Father of all, the Son and the Holy Spirit:

Eph 4:6  One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Notice, the Father is the source of all things.  He is above all. The Father is not the trinity, the God is not three person made one.

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Jesus created everything. So He can NOT create himself if He is created being. So we left with two choices.

1.         Jesus is self existence then he has everything by himself including His life.
2.         The Father broth forth possessed the Son from himself; and gave the Son everything, including having life in himself.

We know there is no verse says that Jesus is self existent and we HAVE verses says that Jesus got everything from His Father including His life.

Joh 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

In Matt 28:18, John 5:43 and John 17:1 & 2, Jesus Himself states he was GIVEN authority by the Father.

And we KNOW that there is verses say that the Father broth forth, possessed the Son.

Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.

Pro 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

EGW says:

“His "goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting." Micah 5:2. And the Son of God declares concerning Himself: "The Lord possessed Me in the beginning of His way, before His works of old. I was set up from everlasting. . . . When He appointed the foundations of the earth: then I was by Him, as one brought up with Him: and I was daily His delight, rejoicing always before Him."Proverbs 8:22- 30.” {PP 34}

The Bible says that there is only one true God and that the Father.

Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

The Father sent Jesus Christ and this is life eternal to know thee (the Father, not the three person) and Jesus Christ the Son, the word of the Father.

1Jn 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

Joh 16:27  For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.

Joh 16:28  I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father

Jesus says: “I came out from God, I came forth from the Father,” The God is the Father; not three person who made up One God!

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